24 - Oops I Worked For A CULT - Joel Zarrow

Joel Zarrow, President & CEO of the Park City Community Foundation, joins us for one of our favorite conversations yet.

We talk about growing up in California before it became “Calabasas,” turning down a job on Seinfeld, traveling through Thailand, education policy, nonprofit leadership, cult-like consulting firms, community building, and the strange emotional tension of living in a place like Park City.

This episode digs into something bigger than real estate:

What actually makes a town feel like a community?

We talk about wealth, belonging, philanthropy, traffic, identity, affordable housing, relationships, and the reality that people are just people — whether they live in a studio apartment or a house in The Colony.

Joel brings honesty, perspective, and humility to a conversation that feels incredibly relevant right now.

This one’s about place.

And the people trying to hold onto what makes it special.