Episodes

What happens when your life never really follows the plan? Charlie Johnson moved to Park City for his senior year of high school after growing up around Pittsburgh, and almost immediately found something here that would shape the rest of his life: community. From Park City to Montana, New York City, rural courtrooms, San Francisco and the renewable energy industry, Charlie’s path has been anything but linear. Along the way he studied history, worked on hip-hop music videos, went to law school, c...

Jennifer Wesselhoff has spent much of her career thinking about what makes a place worth visiting. But this conversation became much more about what makes a place worth calling home. Jennifer is the President and CEO of the Park City Chamber & Visitors Bureau, after spending two decades with the Chamber in Sedona, Arizona. Her path to Park City, though, is anything but a straight line. She grew up the youngest of five in Cleveland, became the first in her family to attend college, lived and work...

Some people stumble into the life they have. Others choose it—again and again. Steve Angerosa first came to Park City for the 2002 Winter Olympics, thinking it would be a temporary stop. More than two decades later, after moving away four different times, he keeps finding his way back. We talk about growing up in New York, his Italian immigrant grandparents, why a simple shoeshine kit means so much to him, working the Salt Lake Olympics, building a career inside the ski industry, and why certain...

Most people think success is about climbing. Todd Coleman chose to dig. He grew up in Park City, left to explore the world, discovered outdoor education, spent years helping teenagers change their lives, learned farming in New England, and eventually came home to grow food on the same property where he grew up. That isn't just a career. It's a life built with intention. One of my favorite parts of this conversation wasn't the history of Park City—it was the reminder that communities don't stay s...

Katie Wilking grew up in Park City, left for college and Washington D.C., then found herself coming home. In this episode we talk about old Main Street, Park City's early days, Mileti's, skiing as kids, commercial real estate, entrepreneurship, community, and why the people—not just the mountains—keep drawing us back. It's a conversation about growing up, leaving, returning, and appreciating a place differently with each chapter of life.

Jonathan Crosswhite has lived several lives. The son of an NBA player, Jonathan grew up moving from city to city before finding his way to Division I football at the University of Utah and eventually the Arizona Cardinals. In this episode, we talk about sports, ADHD, parenting, pressure, sales, real estate, and what happens when your childhood dream becomes your job. We also dive into why some athletes thrive under pressure, how great salespeople build trust, and why Jonathan's ultimate retireme...

Bekah Stevens came to Park City thinking she’d stay for one winter. Twenty-three years later, she’s transitioning into ownership of Park City Powder Cats — one of the most unique independent ski operations in the country. In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, we talk about: growing up in rural Vermont moving west after college seasonal jobs and ski town survival why so many people stayed in Park City how mountain towns have changed the reality of raising a family on the Wasatch Back entrepreneursh...

This week on Ski In Sell Out, we sit down with Allie Dickie — entrepreneur, HOA operator, former consultant, mother, community builder, and unofficial therapist for modern neighborhood dysfunction. What starts as a conversation about Florida roots, consulting careers, and moving to Park City “for one winter” turns into something much deeper about identity, parenting, leadership, emotional weight, and building a life that actually feels good. We talk about: Leaving corporate consulting behind Sta...

Eric Wiener’s story feels almost made up — except it’s real. Born in the Bronx, raised between cultures, working in the New York music industry during the rise of artists like Jay-Z and Britney Spears, Eric eventually left it all behind after 9/11 to become a Marine Corps Harrier pilot. In this episode we talk about: Growing up in New York and finding community block by block Identity, adoption, and cultural belonging The reality of the music business and hustling in NYC Working at Roc-A-Fella a...

What actually makes a place feel like home? This week we sat down with Park City Councilwoman Molly Miller for one of our favorite conversations yet — covering everything from growing up as the youngest of five girls in Michigan, cleaning motel rooms in Maine at eight years old, working in news, interning at Saturday Night Live, falling in love over early Twitter, and eventually finding her way to Park City. But underneath all of it was a bigger conversation about instincts, parenting, failure, ...

Joel Zarrow, President & CEO of the Park City Community Foundation, joins us for one of our favorite conversations yet. We talk about growing up in California before it became “Calabasas,” turning down a job on Seinfeld, traveling through Thailand, education policy, nonprofit leadership, cult-like consulting firms, community building, and the strange emotional tension of living in a place like Park City. This episode digs into something bigger than real estate: What actually makes a town feel...

This one is different. No guests. No script. Just Max and Lauren getting honest about what it actually feels like to build something from scratch—when the pipeline is dry, the bills are real, and the confidence gets tested daily. They talk about: The fear that comes with betting on yourself Why “contact roulette” might be the best lead gen strategy right now Financial pressure vs. belief in the long game What it really means to go all-in And why this might be the exact moment that matters...

This episode is what real real estate looks like. We sit down with longtime Park City local and development expert Patrick Howell to talk about the path nobody sees—from growing up on a ranch in Northern California to building a career in hospitality, and eventually stepping into the world of development sales in Park City. Patrick got into real estate in 2006… right before the crash. What followed was a full cycle—boom, bust, survival, and rebuilding into one of the most trusted voices in devel...

Ryan Dickey didn’t plan to become mayor of Park City. Like a lot of people, he came for a winter… and never left. In this episode, we go way beyond real estate. We talk about small-town roots, big life pivots, and what happens when you choose community over everything else. From building a business to stepping into public service, Ryan shares what it really looks like to balance family, work, and responsibility in a place people don’t want to leave. This one gets into the real stuff: Why peo...

This one starts earlier than most. Before city council, before housing debates, before Park City became what it is today — this is about how it all begins. Becca Gerber grew up here. Not the polished version of Park City, but the one where you figured it out as you went, worked a bunch of jobs, and stayed because something about this place just sticks. We get into her path — from swimming at the University of Utah to almost joining the Peace Corps, to coming home during the 2002 Olympics and ...

A conversation about how people actually end up in Park City — and why it’s rarely a straight line. Eric Gingras shares his journey from the East Coast to Red Ledges, starting with ski trips, taking calculated risks, buying land before having a plan, and slowly building a life in Utah. What starts as curiosity turns into commitment — and eventually, a full transition into real estate, community, and lifestyle. This episode explores the common thread behind so many Park City stories: people ch...

What was Park City like before it became… Park City? In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Max’s dad, Jim Doilney — one of the early builders of modern Park City. From dodging the Vietnam draft to building homes, creating neighborhoods, preserving open space, and helping shape the town we know today — this is a raw, honest look at how it all came together. This isn’t just a story about real estate. It’s a story about community, risk, failure, and building a life in...

In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with builder Matt Russell, founder of Build Utah, to talk about what really happens behind the scenes of luxury construction in Park City. Matt’s journey didn’t start with blueprints — it started in dental school in Manhattan. After 9/11, a Volkswagen bus, and a cross-country reset, he chose dirt over dentistry and never looked back. We talk about: Why every contractor ends up being a marriage therapist What 25 years in construction...

Max and Lauren sit down with renowned designer Barclay Butera to talk about creativity, growth, and what it really means to build a business that lasts. From growing up in a family design firm to expanding across Newport Beach, New York, Los Angeles, and Park City — Barclay shares the highs, the hard lessons from 2008, and why relationships matter more than scale. This conversation goes beyond design — touching on real estate evolution, legacy neighborhoods, community growth, and how Park City c...

Abbi Martz joins Ski In Sell Out to talk about her path from elite ski racing to luxury real estate in Park City, Utah. Raised on a ski mountain in New Hampshire and shaped by years of high-level competition, Abbi brings discipline, clarity, and heart to her work in Deer Valley real estate. In this episode, we cover ski racing culture, growing up as an identical twin, transitioning from athletics to business, building a successful real estate partnership, and raising a family in a rapidly chang...

What happens when a lifelong bartender, adventure-seeker, and ski-town local decides to “sell out”—without actually selling out? In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, hosts Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Park City real estate agent Andy Cordray to explore a career pivot rooted in authenticity, lifestyle, and hard-earned self-awareness. Andy shares his unconventional journey from bartending on Main Street to becoming one of Park City’s most trusted real estate professionals—while kee...

In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ace Allak for a grounded, honest conversation about leadership, mentorship, and the responsibility that comes with building something meaningful. Ace shares lessons from his early life, the pressure to perform, and the long road to building successful businesses—while avoiding the traps of burnout, ego, and false balance. At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: you must qualify your mentor. This episode e...

Jill Johnson grew up in Park City when it was still a sleepy mountain town — when kids biked everywhere, ski days were built into school, and the mountain itself felt like a babysitter. In this episode, Jill reflects on growing up in a family deeply tied to the shaping of Park City, her journey as a competitive mogul skier, her years away in Chicago studying art therapy, and what ultimately pulled her back home. Now working in real estate at Powder Mountain / Powder Haven, Jill shares a thought...

What does it actually mean to stay in a place like Park City — without getting stuck, bitter, or burned out? In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Molly Crosswhite, a Park City native and co-founder of Selling the Slopes, whose life and career track the town’s evolution in real time. Molly opens up about growing up in Park City before the boom, leaving to find her own footing, and choosing to come back — not because it was easy, but because the place kept changing wi...