Episodes

Max and Lauren sit down with renowned designer Barclay Butera to talk about creativity, growth, and what it really means to build a business that lasts. From growing up in a family design firm to expanding across Newport Beach, New York, Los Angeles, and Park City — Barclay shares the highs, the hard lessons from 2008, and why relationships matter more than scale. This conversation goes beyond design — touching on real estate evolution, legacy neighborhoods, community growth, and how Park City c...

Abbi Martz joins Ski In Sell Out to talk about her path from elite ski racing to luxury real estate in Park City, Utah. Raised on a ski mountain in New Hampshire and shaped by years of high-level competition, Abbi brings discipline, clarity, and heart to her work in Deer Valley real estate. In this episode, we cover ski racing culture, growing up as an identical twin, transitioning from athletics to business, building a successful real estate partnership, and raising a family in a rapidly chang...

What happens when a lifelong bartender, adventure-seeker, and ski-town local decides to “sell out”—without actually selling out? In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, hosts Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Park City real estate agent Andy Cordray to explore a career pivot rooted in authenticity, lifestyle, and hard-earned self-awareness. Andy shares his unconventional journey from bartending on Main Street to becoming one of Park City’s most trusted real estate professionals—while kee...

In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ace Allak for a grounded, honest conversation about leadership, mentorship, and the responsibility that comes with building something meaningful. Ace shares lessons from his early life, the pressure to perform, and the long road to building successful businesses—while avoiding the traps of burnout, ego, and false balance. At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: you must qualify your mentor. This episode e...

Jill Johnson grew up in Park City when it was still a sleepy mountain town — when kids biked everywhere, ski days were built into school, and the mountain itself felt like a babysitter. In this episode, Jill reflects on growing up in a family deeply tied to the shaping of Park City, her journey as a competitive mogul skier, her years away in Chicago studying art therapy, and what ultimately pulled her back home. Now working in real estate at Powder Mountain / Powder Haven, Jill shares a thought...

What does it actually mean to stay in a place like Park City — without getting stuck, bitter, or burned out? In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Molly Crosswhite, a Park City native and co-founder of Selling the Slopes, whose life and career track the town’s evolution in real time. Molly opens up about growing up in Park City before the boom, leaving to find her own footing, and choosing to come back — not because it was easy, but because the place kept changing wi...

Oops… We Sold Out. What does “selling out” really mean in a ski town? In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Rachel Retzer of Selling the Slopes for a candid, funny, and thoughtful conversation about career pivots, identity, and finding work that actually fits. From teaching elementary school to selling luxury real estate, Rachel shares how freedom, stability, and partnership only work when your career aligns with who you are — not who people expect ...

In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ben Fisher, one of the founders of Christie’s International Real Estate Park City. Ben’s path is rare — he got his first “referral fee” at 16 working in a ski shop, skipped the typical post-college wandering years, and jumped into real estate full-time by his early 20s. Ben opens up about: Growing up in Park City after his dad took a massive career swing to move the family west park-city-real-estate-journey-t… What it’s like to...

Max and Lauren welcome Sam, one of the owners of Christie's International Real Estate Park City and a former top agent at Sotheby’s, to talk about the real story behind his “rocket ship” career. Sam shares how he went from bartending and bouncing around Europe, to moving to Park City for family, to jumping into real estate with a father-in-law who handed him the “junk” leads. He talks about cold-calling architects, pulling a postcard out of the trash that led to a life-long client, and why havin...

What happens when a lifelong skier from the Poconos follows his heart west—and ends up helping shape one of the most dynamic resort real-estate markets in the country? In this heartfelt episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren talk with Matt Magnotta, Managing Partner at Christie’s International Real Estate Park City, about his climb from golf professional to trusted development-sales leader. Matt opens up about the recession that tested him, the mentors who helped him redefine sales through ...

Two-time Olympic speed skater Aly Dudek swapped the ice for the Wasatch Back—and she’s not looking back. In this episode, Max and Lauren dig into what it really means to “sell out” in Park City: chasing big goals, rebuilding identity, and finding purpose after the podium. Aly dishes on life in a team of top agents, the competitive edge that never dies, and how she accidentally became the Realtor everyone wants on their side (and on their bike rides). Expect laughs, truth bombs, and a few inside ...

In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Jake Doilney—Principal Broker at Christie’s International Real Estate Park City—to trace a multigenerational story of vision, grit, and reinvention. They explore: 🏔️ How Park City’s “ski-in sell-out” roots shaped today’s real-estate landscape 🧠 Why being called a sellout can actually mean showing up for your community 👨‍👩‍👧 The intertwined Doilney family tree that helped build modern Park City 💡 Mentorship, burnout, and how to ...

In this kickoff episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren unpack what it really means to “sell out.” After a summer of growth and reflection, the two dive into why they ditched the old name (Keeping It Real Estate), what success looks like in a small-town market, and how to stay authentic in an industry built on image. Expect laughter, vulnerability, and a few hard truths about fear, money, ambition, and what it takes to build a career that actually feels like you. Whether you’re a real-esta...

In this episode of Ski in-Sell Out!, we sit down with Christine Grenney—who’s been rocking Park City real estate for over two decades—to talk passion, pixie dust, and playing the long game. Christine’s not just selling houses, she’s selling the whole Park City experience—best burritos, secret powder-day parking spots, and all. She shares why there’s no room for scarcity thinking, how protecting your value means never discounting your worth, and why finding the right fit with clients matters more...

In this inaugural episode of Ski in-Sell Out! (Previously -Keeping It Real(estate)), Max Doilney gets brutally honest about what it means to reinvent yourself mid-career—while learning to love a profession he once judged. From owning a restaurant to serving on city council, to finally going all-in on real estate, Max shares why he’s launching this podcast (alone… for now), and what he hopes it becomes. It’s raw, unfiltered, and the perfect starting point for anyone questioning what’s next in t...

In Episode 2, The Edge of the Dive, Lauren joins Max to talk through her looming career change—leaving adolescent mental health to step into real estate. She hasn’t told her current job yet, but the decision is alive in her head and heart. Together, they explore what it means to trade a helping profession for a business often judged as superficial or greedy. The conversation ranges from Park City’s $28 million deals to the awkwardness of calling yourself a “realtor,” from the weight of financia...